{"id":1730,"date":"2026-04-16T15:25:37","date_gmt":"2026-04-16T19:25:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/?page_id=1730"},"modified":"2026-04-16T15:28:32","modified_gmt":"2026-04-16T19:28:32","slug":"against-respectability-politics-in-multiplicity","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/articles\/intersections\/against-respectability-politics-in-multiplicity\/","title":{"rendered":"Against Respectability Politics in Multiplicity"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Yavari Romanov and Jack Dawkins, 2026<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Disclaimer:<\/strong> Note that this isn\u2019t an anti-endogenic rant. Although we\u2019re a mixed-origin system, we believe that endogenic systems are just as valid as we are. We hate plural-community pissing contests and have since we got involved.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>When we got involved with the plural community twenty years ago, we got inducted into the healthy\/empowered multiplicity subculture, not realising how much trauma played a role in the formation of our system. We thought we were endogenic\u2014though that term wasn\u2019t used back then\u2014for years, till Jamie started suspecting otherwise and the rest of us eventually followed her lead.<\/p>\n<p>Our entr\u00e9e into the plural world was through websites like <a href=\"https:\/\/astraeasweb.net\"><em>Astraea\u2019s Web<\/em><\/a>, the Anachronic Army\u2019s <em><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20001210214600\/http:\/\/www.darkpersonalities.com\/index2.html\">Dark Personalities<\/a><\/em>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.karitas.net\/blackbirds\/layman\/whatis.html\"><em>The Layman\u2019s Guide to Multiplicity<\/em><\/a>, the Blackbirds\u2019 <em><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20260226003853\/https:\/\/www.karitas.net\/blackbirds\/\">Four and Twenty<\/a><\/em>, and the <em>Two Courts<\/em>. All these aimed to decouple endogenic multiplicity from DID. They were the precursor to the modern \u201cendogenic\u201d systems, though they called themselves \u201cnatural\u201d multiples or plurals. It is true that there are systems that exist without undergoing trauma. But the way they did it sometimes denigrated traumagenic systems who needed therapeutic support to navigate life. They held themselves up as being functional, sane, and independent, rather than those <em>other<\/em> systems who needed significant services and supports to help them manage life.<\/p>\n<p>Most of those sites are long gone (except for Astraea\u2019s Web), but the ideas incubated there still exist even thirty years later. It\u2019s just that they\u2019ve migrated to Reddit, TikTok, and Tumblr instead.<\/p>\n<p>Even now, there are systems who make a big deal out of being more functional or stable than all the rest. They\u2019re marginalising those of us who are not only plural, but struggle with other mental health issues, because we\u2019re too \u201cdysfunctional\u201d and \u201cunstable.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s ableist, disempowering, shitty behaviour that doesn\u2019t help our community. It\u2019s based on capitalist constructions of what productivity and respectability look like.<\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s take a trip back in time to understand the foundations of respectability politics in the plural community.<\/p>\n<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_71 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-grey ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<div class=\"ez-toc-title-container\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<span class=\"ez-toc-title-toggle\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"ez-toc-pull-right ez-toc-btn ez-toc-btn-xs ez-toc-btn-default ez-toc-toggle\" aria-label=\"Toggle Table of Content\"><span class=\"ez-toc-js-icon-con\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/articles\/intersections\/against-respectability-politics-in-multiplicity\/#Astraeas_Web\" title=\"Astraea\u2019s Web\">Astraea\u2019s Web<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/articles\/intersections\/against-respectability-politics-in-multiplicity\/#Dark_Personalities\" title=\"Dark Personalities\">Dark Personalities<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/articles\/intersections\/against-respectability-politics-in-multiplicity\/#In_Essence\" title=\"In Essence\">In Essence<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/articles\/intersections\/against-respectability-politics-in-multiplicity\/#Sound_familiar_Aspie_Supremacists_and_Healthy_Multiples\" title=\"Sound familiar? Aspie Supremacists and Healthy Multiples\">Sound familiar? Aspie Supremacists and Healthy Multiples<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Astraeas_Web\"><\/span><em>Astraea\u2019s Web<\/em><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>One of the biggest influences on our realising we were plural was Astraea, the owner&amp; of the long-running <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.astraeasweb.net\">Astraea\u2019s Web<\/a><\/em>. This was both through reading their website and talking to them almost daily for nearly two years. <em>Astraea\u2019s Web<\/em> was founded in 1995, meaning that they\u2019ve been influencing the conversation on multiplicity for over thirty years. <em>Astraea\u2019s Web<\/em> isn\u2019t linked to nearly as much as it used to be, but their history in the community can\u2019t be overstated.<\/p>\n<p>Astraea have done a lot of valuable work in setting the foundation for endogenic systems to be recognised as who they are. The problem is that they throw DID and OSDD (Other Specified Dissociative Disorder, a diagnosis for people who meet some DID criteria, but not all) systems under the bus while doing so.<\/p>\n<p>For example, Anthony Temple of Astraea <a href=\"https:\/\/astraeasweb.net\/plural\/nomore.html\">said<\/a>,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>There is no \u201cMPD\u201d except in the minds of doctors who cannot understand that multiplicity is as natural to us as being a singlet is to them. Calling multiples \u201cdisordered\u201d simply for having many selves is like calling Native Americans \u201cdisordered\u201d for having a culture and language different from those of non-Indians. It is just as prejudicial. It is a denial of our existence.<\/p>\n<p>. . .<\/p>\n<p>I feel the only answer is to demystify multiplicity by getting it out of the doctor\u2019s office.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yes, nondisordered and endogenic plurality exist, but it\u2019s unfair to dismiss the experiences of traumagenic or DID systems who struggle and need support. We\u2019re not crazy about some of the medical model, and we\u2019ve criticised it a lot here. But it fits some people, and taking DID and OSDD out of the DSM would mean that a lot of people would be stranded without support.<\/p>\n<p>(Admittedly, some of Astraea\u2019s articles are out of date; they were written in the late 1990s and early 2000s. They were written in the era of the DSM-IV, which considered all multiplicity to be DID and DDNOS (Dissociative Disorder, Not Otherwise Specified). The DSM-5 and its text revision, on the other hand, say that DID can be diagnosed <strong>only<\/strong> when it actually causes distress to the system seeking therapy.)<\/p>\n<p>Astraea\u2019s critiques of the medical industry don\u2019t stop here. They\u2019re also broadly <a href=\"https:\/\/www.astraeasweb.net\/politics\/badpsych.html\">anti-psychiatry<\/a>. Although there are a lot of problems with psychiatry as it is, that doesn\u2019t mean that we need to get rid of the whole damn thing. We have Bipolar I (the flavour of bipolar disorder that features full-blown mania) and absolutely <em>need<\/em> medication to stay stable. If not, then we spin out of control and say and do things that would never happen otherwise. Anti-psychiatry doesn\u2019t really have a satisfying answer to our condition.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Dark_Personalities\"><\/span><em>Dark Personalities<\/em><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><em><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20001210214600\/http:\/\/www.darkpersonalities.com\/index2.html\">Dark Personalities<\/a> <\/em>was before our time. It was both a website and a mailing list for multiples who felt they didn\u2019t fit into the classic DID survivor mould. The site had shut down by the time we started getting involved with the community in 2006. But we knew a lot of older systems who were involved in with DP, and it was clear that its influence reverberated across the community.<\/p>\n<p>The Anachronic Army and the other systems posting on <em>Dark Personalities<\/em> were harsh critics of the online survivor culture at the time. They were actively against trigger warnings and \u201csplats\u201d (asterisks replacing letters, like r*pe and ab*se) and wanted to post content that was uncensored. There are both benefits and drawbacks to this approach. Sometimes people need a space where they can talk about what they\u2019ve gone through without censoring themselves. But there really are survivors who\u2019ve gone through a lot who want a safer space that allows them to process their trauma without being constantly reminded of it.<\/p>\n<p><em>Dark Personalities<\/em> was innovative in a lot of ways. It allowed multiples to express themselves freely and question aspects of the medical model that didn\u2019t suit them, even if the systems were survivors of trauma. But it also encouraged the attitude that \u201cfunctional\u201d multiples were better than systems who struggled.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"In_Essence\"><\/span><em>In Essence<\/em><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Many systems used the <em><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20240617030235\/http:\/\/www.karitas.net\/courts\/in_essence\/our_statement.html\">In Essence<\/a><\/em> declaration, apparently created by the Courts system, to show that they were functional.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s some good stuff in <em>In Essence<\/em>, like a statement that the system is responsible for the actions of any one member, so you can\u2019t blame harmful actions on your \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/exunoplures.org\/evildemon.html\">evil demon alter<\/a>\u201d without consequences.<\/p>\n<p>The problem with <em>In Essence<\/em> is that it says stuff like\u2026<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We agree that our ongoing intent is to function at or beyond the level of any other average individual in the society around us, being aware of our own needs and requirements and taking our own action to fulfill them without requiring external government.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is ableist hogwash. A lot of disabled folks can\u2019t \u201cfunction at or beyond the level of any average individual in the society around us.\u201d Some of us can\u2019t work. Some of us can work, but need a lot of support to do so, or they have to choose between working and household tasks. For example, we\u2019re able to work full time (or <em>more<\/em> than full time, as the case may be), but most of our executive functioning goes towards working. We have a hard time keeping our living space in order. Cooking is another thing we struggle to do. We know <em>how<\/em> to cook, but we don\u2019t always have the energy to do it. When we weren\u2019t working, it was somewhat easier (though still hard) for us to keep our spaces tidy and cook all the time.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s not in keeping with the <a href=\"https:\/\/sinsinvalid.org\/10-principles-of-disability-justice\/\">principles of disability justice<\/a> at all. One of those principles is interdependence, or the idea that we all rely on other people to navigate the world. What <em>In Essence<\/em> is focusing on is a kind of imaginary independence absent of external support.<\/p>\n<p>Even we signed an <em>In Essence<\/em> declaration when we first discovered our system, though we were dealing with unstable housing, unemployment, and the realisation that we\u2019d been badly abused growing up. But we saw other systems\u2014ones we saw as role models\u2014doing it, so we thought we had to do it as well.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Sound_familiar_Aspie_Supremacists_and_Healthy_Multiples\"><\/span>Sound familiar? Aspie Supremacists and Healthy Multiples<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Frankly, some aspects of the healthy multiplicity subculture remind us of another community we belong to: autistic folks. Certain autistic people act as though they\u2019re better than others because they can pass for non-autistic, work or communicate with speech. A common term for these people is \u201cAspie supremacists,\u201d after the old Asperger Syndrome diagnosis. They emphasise that they\u2019re high-functioning and not like Those Autistic People with intellectual disabilities, or Those Autistic People who are non-speaking, or Those Autistic People who can\u2019t work because of their disabilities. And like Aspie supremacists, some healthy multiples are quick to distinguish themselves from Those Dysfunctional Systems with too many problems.<\/p>\n<p>This doesn\u2019t help anyone. Many people outside the plural and DID communities view us <em>all<\/em> as dysfunctional and disordered, whether or not that\u2019s how we view ourselves. Under the social model of disability, both endogenic and traumagenic systems live in a world that\u2019s not built for them. We all have to mask ourselves. We can\u2019t talk openly about who we are because we\u2019ll be mocked, not taken seriously or thought to be a threat. Ableism isn\u2019t going to help advance acceptance of <em>any<\/em> kind of system, whether they\u2019re traumagenic or endogenic or a combination of the two.<\/p>\n<p>We may not have <em>In Essence<\/em> declarations any more. Astraea and the Anachronic Army aren\u2019t leading the conversation on nondisordered and endogenic multiplicity any more. But the ableism and respectability politics remain a problem with which our community contends. It\u2019s time to flip the script again\u2014<em>all<\/em> systems deserve support, whether or not they meet criteria for DID.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yavari Romanov and Jack Dawkins, 2026 Disclaimer: Note that this isn\u2019t an anti-endogenic rant. Although we\u2019re a mixed-origin system, we believe that endogenic systems are just as valid as we are. 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