{"id":1043,"date":"2023-07-27T03:14:58","date_gmt":"2023-07-27T07:14:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/?page_id=1043"},"modified":"2026-03-19T16:12:32","modified_gmt":"2026-03-19T20:12:32","slug":"the-race-issue-version-4-0","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/articles\/intersections\/the-race-issue-version-4-0\/","title":{"rendered":"The Race Issue: Version 4.0"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/race-issue-4.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-1210\" src=\"http:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/race-issue-4-1024x512.png\" alt=\"Text: The Race Issue\" width=\"1024\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/race-issue-4-1024x512.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/race-issue-4-300x150.png 300w, https:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/race-issue-4-768x384.png 768w, https:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/race-issue-4-1536x768.png 1536w, https:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/race-issue-4.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>As a multicultural, multiracial plural system that is perceived as Black American by the general public, we\u2019ve encountered a fair deal of racial stereotyping and pigeonholing over our seventeen years in the plural community. About a year after we came to terms with our plurality, I wrote the first <a href=\"http:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/articles\/race\/\">Race Issue<\/a>\u00a0article after an awkward incident in which someone asked why we didn\u2019t have anyone who matched the front\u2019s racial background (which was both racist and manifestly untrue). We revisited the issue two more times: in 2009, I wrote a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/articles\/race2\/\">follow-up<\/a> to my earlier post, and Em <a href=\"http:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/articles\/the-race-issue-3-0\/\">wrote<\/a> from their own perspective in 2014. It\u2019s been nine years since the last time we talked about plurality and race for our site, and we\u2019ve developed new insights about who we are, what we believe and the message that we want to send. So, yet again, it\u2019s time for a Race Issue article, this time as a Q&amp;A.<\/p>\n<p>Drawing from our outworld experiences, as well as those in our otherworld, we discuss the relationship between race and plurality and its meaning for our system in particular. Em, Vova, Hess, Yavari, and I volunteered our responses.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014Jack<\/p>\n<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_71 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-grey ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<div class=\"ez-toc-title-container\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<span class=\"ez-toc-title-toggle\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"ez-toc-pull-right ez-toc-btn ez-toc-btn-xs ez-toc-btn-default ez-toc-toggle\" aria-label=\"Toggle Table of Content\"><span class=\"ez-toc-js-icon-con\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/articles\/intersections\/the-race-issue-version-4-0\/#Q_What_are_your_racial_and_cultural_backgrounds\" title=\"Q: What are your racial and cultural backgrounds?\">Q: What are your racial and cultural backgrounds?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/articles\/intersections\/the-race-issue-version-4-0\/#Q_What_are_common_misconceptions_about_race_and_plurality_that_you_want_to_correct\" title=\"Q: What are common misconceptions about race and plurality that you want to correct?\">Q: What are common misconceptions about race and plurality that you want to correct?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/articles\/intersections\/the-race-issue-version-4-0\/#Q_Can_you_name_an_incident_involving_plurality_and_race_that_was_especially_upsetting_and_why\" title=\"Q: Can you name an incident involving plurality and race that was especially upsetting, and why?\">Q: Can you name an incident involving plurality and race that was especially upsetting, and why?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/articles\/intersections\/the-race-issue-version-4-0\/#Q_What_do_you_wish_people_would_understand_about_plurality_and_race\" title=\"Q: What do you wish people would understand about plurality and race?\">Q: What do you wish people would understand about plurality and race?<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Q_What_are_your_racial_and_cultural_backgrounds\"><\/span>Q: What are your racial and cultural backgrounds?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><strong>Jack:<\/strong> My father is English and Scottish, and my mother is Irish. I mostly see myself as British.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Vova:<\/strong> I\u2019m mostly Russian, but I have some German, Ashkenazi Jewish, and Crimean Tatar ancestry as well.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hess:<\/strong> I&#8217;m a Brit of Russian, Japanese, German Jewish, Buryat (indigenous Mongol people in Siberia), and Han Chinese descent.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Em: <\/strong>I\u2019m a Black American whose family moved from Mississippi to California during the Great Migration of the 1950s.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Yavari:<\/strong> I grew up off Earth, on a planet where there are two sapient species, so my perception of human races is different from what you\u2019d expect. I mostly just see myself as human. But I\u2019d be considered a &#8220;person of colour\u201d here because my mother\u2019s family is West African, Afro-Caribbean, and Middle Eastern. My dad is British.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Q_What_are_common_misconceptions_about_race_and_plurality_that_you_want_to_correct\"><\/span>Q: What are common misconceptions about race and plurality that you want to correct?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><strong>Jack:<\/strong> That having a race different to the front body\u2019s is somehow a sign of internalised racism\u2014or a kind of cultural appropriation. We see our system as a kind of massive self-writing story. Are authors who write about different cultures appropriating? Did James Baldwin express internalised racism by writing <em>Giovanni\u2019s Room<\/em>, which features no Black characters? It\u2019s important, too, to consider the context in which a system lives. I suspect that we have a large number of European system members in part <em>because we lived in Western Europe for six and a half years<\/em>, including my own country, the United Kingdom.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hess: <\/strong>That systems necessarily have control over what background their system members have. We never consciously decided to have the racial and ethnic composition we have. If we had more choice over ours, I think we\u2019d probably have more Black system members. We\u2019re racially diverse, but very few of us match the front\u2019s ethnic or racial characteristics entirely. (Usually, it\u2019s one or two of our backgrounds, but not all of them together in one system member.) We\u2019ve beaten ourselves up a lot over having so many European system members, even though there are two concrete explanations for it that Jack mentioned earlier.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Vova:<\/strong> I\u2019m tired of the essentialism surrounding race in general. I don\u2019t even believe in the sharp dichotomy between \u201cwhite\u201d and \u201cperson of colour,\u201d especially since racial categories are fluid. Europeans express xenophobia toward each other all the time. In the UK, Poles and Romanians are treated similarly to Mexicans in America, despite the fact that most Britons, Poles, and Romanians are \u201cwhite.\u201d I\u2019m Eastern European, and I know I wouldn\u2019t be treated the same in the UK or France as I would in my own country. (This used to happen in American culture too, where Irish people and Italians were treated as \u201cnot really white.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Yavari:<\/strong> That people in general see race the same way. As I said earlier, I\u2019m an off-world human. Where I live, we all belong to one race\u2014the human race. People do have cultural identities\u2014Maidini, Biaritzan, Japanese, etc.\u2014but we don\u2019t use designations like \u201cBlack&#8221; or \u201cwhite&#8221; or split people up by skin tones or phenotypic characteristics. I think living alongside a different sapient species (the Galudi) helped us realise that we were really all one people deep down.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Q_Can_you_name_an_incident_involving_plurality_and_race_that_was_especially_upsetting_and_why\"><\/span>Q: Can you name an incident involving plurality and race that was especially upsetting, and why?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><strong>Hess: <\/strong>In our early twenties, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.exunoplures.org\/main\/articles\/intersections\/race\/\">a friend of ours asked us why there weren\u2019t any Black people in our system<\/a>. &#8220;I see your pictures and they\u2019re all white,&#8221; they said. But those photos were approximations. Yavari, who is multiracial, couldn\u2019t find a photo of a brown-skinned man that represented him, so he used a lighter-skinned person with an aesthetic that was close to his. (It turns out that I&#8217;m multiracial as well, but we didn\u2019t know that back in 2007.) Our art skills weren\u2019t up to the task. Jack talked about this incident in the first &#8220;Race Issue&#8221; article. We feel really uncomfortable with the idea that we have to match the front body. We don\u2019t see white-bodied systems being questioned this way except for one case: if they have a lot of Japanese system members. I don\u2019t know why it\u2019s Japan and Japan only.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Yavari: <\/strong>This doesn\u2019t really involve us, except as a bystander, but there was somebody on a LiveJournal plurality community who said they had a \u201cNegro&#8221; system member. They were just young and ignorant (and from a country with a low Black population), but we were still really thrown off guard, since we don\u2019t see that term very much outside old books.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Em:<\/strong> To piggyback on Yavari\u2019s LiveJournal comment, there was another LJ incident involving a white-bodied system and Black system members. The head of a white-bodied system was posting about a group of \u201cebonic persons\u201d (I shit you not, \u201cebonic persons\u201d) that had joined the system and were suddenly making everything \u201canti-white.\u201d They prayed about it and concluded that these \u201cebonic persons\u201d were there to help them fight racism in their community. (To be clear, it\u2019s not about the fact that these systems had Black members. We know other white-bodied systems who know not to be shitty and racist. It\u2019s the way they talked about them.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Vova:<\/strong> For the past three months, we\u2019ve been taking Russian classes\u2014some of us, including me, are Russian or of Russian descent. After one class, one of the other students asked Yavari why were studying Russian if we were Black and queer. He was taken aback and didn\u2019t know what to say. But we know now that this was racist. (Ironically, this person was of Southeast Asian descent!) There are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fairplanet.org\/story\/racism-against-black-russians-afrorussians\/\">Black people in Russia<\/a>. It\u2019s a small population, but it exists. And there are <a href=\"https:\/\/lgbtnet.org\/en\/\">queer<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/centre-t.com\/\">trans people<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=zY5OGlAzFoA\">there<\/a>, too, even though Vladimir Putin and his followers want to pretend that they don\u2019t exist, or shouldn\u2019t exist.<\/p>\n<p>No, this person didn\u2019t know about our plurality, but it was still connected: we\u2019re studying Russian because I want to use it\u2014and because we enjoy learning new languages.<\/p>\n<p>And in the end, it\u2019s really none of her business, anyway. People can have any reason for learning a language: they want to travel to a new country, they want to understand the foreign TV shows they watch, they have relatives who speak it, or they can simply be curious.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Q_What_do_you_wish_people_would_understand_about_plurality_and_race\"><\/span>Q: What do you wish people would understand about plurality and race?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><strong>Vova:<\/strong> That you don\u2019t need to match your front body\u2019s race to be a \u201cgood\u201d system member. We have several explanations for our plurality, and one of them involves the creative process. Wouldn\u2019t it be dull if every character in a story had the same ethnic, racial, and socioeconomic background as the author?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jack: <\/strong>There\u2019s a difference between having a system member of a different race or ethnicity and being a stereotype. For example, we\u2019ve known Black system members in non-Black-bodied systems. This doesn\u2019t bother us, unless they treat their race like a sort of parody. Fortunately, we haven\u2019t seen this happen very much outside trolls on Tumblr.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Em:<\/strong> There\u2019s no such thing as being \u201ctransracial,\u201d despite what online clowns have to say. You can have system members of a different race\u2014in fact, it\u2019s pretty common, from what we\u2019ve seen over our 16 years in the plural community\u2014but that\u2019s not the same thing as wanting to bleach your skin or spend a lot of time in a tanning bed to \u201ctransition\u201d the body, \u00e0 la Rachel Dole\u017eal. Most of the \u201ctransracial\u201d talk is just a way to discredit trans people. Also, members of plural systems know their racial and ethnic identities don\u2019t match their front body. There\u2019s no deceit going on.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As a multicultural, multiracial plural system that is perceived as Black American by the general public, we\u2019ve encountered a fair deal of racial stereotyping and pigeonholing over our seventeen years in the plural community. 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